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Conversion Therapy in the Courts & More

February 13th, 2019

On the Law Notes episode of the LeGaL LGBT Podcast we discuss the transgender military ban action after the SCOTUS decision to reverse the stays on the preliminary injunctions. Next, we talk about the desire by anti-LGBT litigation groups to permit the torture of queer people by attacking several recent laws banning conversion therapy—including one right here in NYC. Finally, we discuss the latest Title VII action—including a bad circuit court ruling, and two positive district court rulings on employment discrimination cases.

With us is NYLS Prof. Art Leonard, chief editor of LeGaL’s LGBT Law Notes, the most comprehensive monthly publication covering the latest LGBT legal developments here and abroad.  

Weaponizing the Web: Queer People in the Age of Grindr and Cyberharassment

February 7th, 2019

We call this episode of the LeGaL LGBT Podcast "Weaponizing the Web: Queer People in the Age of Grindr and the Cyberharassment."

LeGaL Executive Director Eric Lesh talks with Professor Ari Ezra Waldman talk about queer people and issues related to online privacy and security, including revenge porn and how the law can address the issue of non-consensual sharing of images over online dating apps. We also about LGBTQ youth and bullying and whether current laws to protect youth are effective.

Ari Ezra Waldman is a Professor of Law and the Director of the Innovation Center for Law and Technology at NYLS. He is the Founder and Director of the Institute for CyberSafety, which includes the first-of-its-kind law school pro bono clinic representing victims of online harassment.

SCOTUS Rules on Trump’s Trans Military Ban

January 25th, 2019

On January 22nd, by a 5–4 vote, the Supreme Court lifted two injunctions blocking Trump’s hateful and discriminatory ban on transgender military service.

This is not the end. It’s only the beginning. Nevertheless this was devastating news.

The disgraceful actions of this president and his administration, aided by his two illegitimate appointments to the Supreme Court, dishonor the brave transgender troops who courageously serve, and wish to serve, their country.

We stand with you.

We have the latest with New York Law School Prof Art Leonard.


The Battle to Block the Ban

January 11th, 2019

Welcome to the Law Notes episode of the LeGaL LGBT Podcast. I’m Eric Lesh, Executive Director of LeGaL, the LGBT Bar of NY.

On today’s show we are going to be talking about the latest Supreme Court developments. We discuss the attempt by the administration to let the transgender military ban go into effect, and a new sexual orientation  discrimination case under Title IX.

Next we will talk about the ruling from a reliably rightwing activist judge from Texas who held that Obamacare was unconstitutional, placing health insurance for thousands of LGBT people at risk.

Finally, we will discuss a case brought by a student against his high school for intentional infliction of emotional distress for anti-gay animus and subjecting him to conversion therapy.  

With us is Professor Art Leonard, chief editor of LeGaL’s LGBT Law Notes, the most comprehensive monthly publication covering the latest LGBT legal developments here and abroad.  

Trump’s Trans Military Ban to SCOTUS?

December 20th, 2018

On today’s show we are going to be talking about the Trump Administration’s desperate attempt to implement its hateful transgender military ban by jumping the line straight to the Supreme Court. Next, we will talk about another cert petition. This time it’s ADF’s challenge to a PA School District’s policy allowing transgender students to use restroom and locker room facilities consistent with their gender identity. Finally, we will discuss a state court ruling that chips away at the holding in Obergefell and their own state constitutional law by denying a lesbian mother’s co-parenting and visitation access to her child.

With us is NYLS Prof Art Leonard chief editor of LeGaL’s LGBT Law Notes the most comprehensive monthly publication covering the latest LGBT legal developments here and abroad.  

Domestic HIV Law and Policy Talk for #WorldAidsDay

November 30th, 2018

December 1st is World AIDS Day. On this episode of the LeGaL LGBT Podcast, Eric Lesh speaks with Lambda Legal's HIV Project Director Scott Schoettes about the domestic issues of import to people living with HIV.

People living with HIV continue to face discrimination in all areas of life. Lambda Legal won the first HIV discrimination lawsuit in the nation, and since then Scott and his team have helped maintain or expand protections across the country for people living with HIV. We discuss law, policy, stigma, criminalization, access to care, the Trump administration and more!

Trump Continues Attack on Transgender Community

November 16th, 2018

It’s the Law Notes edition of the LeGaL LGBT Podcast. On this show LeGaL’s Executive Director Eric Lesh talks with Prof. Art Leonard about the Trump Administration’s decision to ask the Supreme Court to delay deciding whether Title VII bars gender identity discrimination. 

Then we will discuss two bigoted baker cases: one that may be
coming back to SCOTUS and another that was decided in the UK. 

Finally, we talk about Trump’s continued attack on the humanity and safety of trans people and the massive protests that took place in response.

Preparing for a Progressive Takeover of the Courts

October 30th, 2018

On today’s show we are going to be talking about what civil rights advocates can do to invest in judges who are committed to a liberal jurisprudence that will protect a democracy of the people as well as the rights of LGBT people, women and vulnerable minorities.

We are going to start by talking with Chris Kang, chief counsel for Demand Justice and former Chief Counsel to President Obama about the Supreme Court and how the fight for progressive constitutional change depends on citizen activism. 

Then we will talk with Jon Michaels, a Professor of Law at the UCLA School of Law about his recent piece for Shall Take Care blog: Advancing a Left-Liberal Jurisprudence.

Finally, we will speak with the Brennan Center’s Deputy Director of Democracy Programs, Alicia Bannon about how civil rights advocates can take a new look to state courts as an alternative to federal courts for upholding liberty and equality. 


Boom! Sodomy Law Goes Down

October 17th, 2018

We call this installment of the LGBT Law Notes edition of the LeGaL LGBT Podcast: “Sodomy Law Goes Down.” That’s because on September 6, 2018, the Supreme Court of India ruled that the Constitution protects an individual’s sexual orientation.

We will begin by chatting about this case with Professor Art Leonard of New York Law School. Art is the chief editor and writer of LGBT Law Notes, the most comprehensive monthly publication covering the latest legal and legislative developments affecting the LGBT community here and abroad.

Then we speak with Art about a federal district court that ruled that the U.S. State Department exceeded its authority under the Passport Act of 1926 when it denied a passport to a U.S. Navy veteran who is intersex and non-binary, and does not identify as male or female.

Lastly, we will chat about the federal court in Wisconsin that ordered the state to cover transition medical costs for transgender state employees.

BiLawrriors: All about the B in lgBt.

September 20th, 2018


Host, Eric Lesh, talks with Nancy Marcus, co-founder of BiLaw and writer for LegallyBi. 

Sept 19-26 is Bisexual Awareness Week, and Septender 23rd is Bi Visibility Day.

On this episode we talk about the nearly five million adults in the U.S. who identify as bisexual. In case you were wondering, bi people actually comprise more than half of the entire LGBT community, yet bi people are often erased from the LGBT movement, our political discourse and even litigation.
So today we are going to talk with THE expext in this area, Nancy Marcus. Nancy is an out bi lawyer and LGBT rights activist. She is a co-founder of BiLaw, the national organization for bi lawyers, law professors, law students, and their allies, and is the author of "Bridging Bisexual Erasure in LGBT-Rights Discourse and Litigation." Nancy is a former colleague of mine at Lambda Legal, and she is also a dear friend.
After our Podcast conversation, Nancy was so inspired by my nudging her that she should be doing even MORE to help bi-inclusion in LGBT-rights advocacy along (because that's what friends do, nudge each other), she asked me to spread the word to any lawyers out there who want help framing strategically effective bi-inclusive arguments (and, possibly, helping with amicus briefing) that she would love to hear from you at